Legislature(1999 - 2000)

02/24/1999 01:32 PM Senate HES

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        SB  27-ACCESS TO DRIVING/SCHOOL RECORDS OF CHILD                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN MILLER brought up SB 27 and asked Mike Pauley to join the                                                              
committee at the table.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 367                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MIKE PAULEY, Staff to Senator Leman, stated he worked with                                                                  
Legal Services at the chairman's request to draft a committee                                                                   
substitute.  He then highlighted the page and line numbers of the                                                               
changes as follows.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
On Page 1, lines 10-12, new language regarding releasing school                                                                 
records states that the school district has the discretion to                                                                   
decline releasing information that consists of the child's address                                                              
if there is reason to believe its release would pose a threat to                                                                
the health or safety of the child.  In reference to the last                                                                    
hearing on the bill, this amended language tries to address the                                                                 
concern expressed by the Council on Domestic Violence & Sexual                                                                  
Assault that there could be some circumstances of a non-custodial                                                               
parent with a restraining order because of child abuse being able                                                               
to locate the child by accessing this address information from the                                                              
school district.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The second change is on Page 2, line 2, where language was removed                                                              
that provided for DMV to charge a fee for the driving abstract,                                                                 
thus making it consistent with Senator Wilken's amendment.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The third change is on Page 2, lines 4-6 which similarly adds an                                                                
exception that the DMV can refuse to release this address                                                                       
information if it has reason to believe that its release might                                                                  
jeopardize the health or safety of the driver. It is consistent                                                                 
with the language in the bill that relates to school records.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 398                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN MILLER asked for a motion to adopt the committee                                                                       
substitute.  SENATOR WILKEN moved to adopt CSSB 27 Version D as a                                                               
working document, and there being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 405                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. BETH LAPE, Special Assistant to the Department of Education,                                                                
briefly stated that the department feels that the 53 school                                                                     
districts in the state are currently in compliance with the federal                                                             
law relating to family educational and privacy rights, so it                                                                    
believes that the first section of the bill is not necessary.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON asked Ms. Lape if the bill passed, could she give an                                                              
estimate of how many school districts would be out of compliance                                                                
with state law. He said he's thinking of Anchorage and Juneau which                                                             
currently exclude medical and psychological records in their local                                                              
policies.  MS. LAPE answered she does not know.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 416                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONA MAEHARA thanked the bill sponsor for working with the                                                                  
council  in drafting language that addressed their concerns.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MIKE PAULEY addressed Senator Elton's earlier question, stating                                                             
the Anchorage school district policy excludes release of medical                                                                
and psychological records of a past or present student who is 18                                                                
years of age or older, but it does not exclude that information for                                                             
students under 18.  Since this proposed legislation only applies to                                                             
children under the age of 18, it would not put Anchorage school                                                                 
district in violation of the federal law.  The federal law gives a                                                              
student, on becoming an adult, the right to consent to the release                                                              
of medical information.  The sponsor's view is that prior to that                                                               
age, it's the parent's right to know medical information about                                                                  
their child.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON asked if he knows the policies of other school                                                                    
districts.  MR. PAULEY replied he hasn't researched all 56                                                                      
districts, although Ms. Lape stated the department feels they are                                                               
all in compliance with federal law.  If that is the case, they                                                                  
wouldn't release that information after the student turns 18.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 440                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN asked Ms. Lape if leaving Section 1 in the bill,                                                                 
which the department feels is unnecessary, would create problems                                                                
for school districts.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. LAPE replied it's a good legal question.  The federal law                                                                   
refers to withholding funds to any local or state agency that has                                                               
a policy of not releasing records to parents.  As far as the                                                                    
department knows, no education agencies in the state are out of                                                                 
compliance.  This state law would bring different consequences and                                                              
a different set of liability.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN asked Mr. Pauley how that squares with what Senator                                                              
Leman is trying to do with the bill.  The department seems to be                                                                
suggesting it doesn't need fixing, and this is duplicative                                                                      
language.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. PAULEY replied that it's not exactly duplicative language. The                                                              
federal law says in order to be eligible for funding you need to do                                                             
this, while the state law says you shall do it.  That's the legal                                                               
difference.  The language was added by the sponsor to  clarify the                                                              
statute relating to the records a custodial parent can access.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN asked Ms. Lape if she recommends leaving Section 1                                                               
as it is, or removing it.  She replied that she recommends taking                                                               
the first section out.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN MILLER stated the committee is at the mark up stage and                                                                
there are some proposed amendments.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN asked if Mr. Pauley could take it back to Senator                                                                
Leman and advise him of this discussion, because it started out as                                                              
a driver's license bill.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 476                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KELLY asked Ms. Lape to explain her statement that a                                                                    
different set of circumstances would apply if the Section 1                                                                     
language is in the bill.  He asked why there would be ramifications                                                             
from the federal government if we put in state law that which is in                                                             
federal law.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. LAPE replied that if it's in state law, there are liability                                                                 
issues with school districts that don't currently exist with                                                                    
federal law.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. PAULEY responded to a question from Senator Kelly regarding                                                                 
what that liability would be.  He said that under state law, if a                                                               
parent tried to get school records and was denied, they could                                                                   
theoretically file an action in court saying this is illegal.                                                                   
Senator Leman is strongly committed to having the first section in                                                              
the bill, and part of his concern is that it adds clarity to the                                                                
statute.  He added that the state statutes are a lot more                                                                       
accessible than the federal law.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KELLY stated there are no unintended consequences of having                                                             
Section 1 beyond what the sponsor wanted to do.  He said he would                                                               
prefer to keep Section 1 in the bill.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 508                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON said he could not agree with Senator Kelly because                                                                
the committee had already found one unintended consequence that the                                                             
CS has remedied.  He reiterated he would like to know the                                                                       
consequences of this addition to statute.  He feels that if a                                                                   
student knew that medical records would be open to the custodial or                                                             
non-custodial parent, it would be a disincentive to the student to                                                              
be treated, as an example, for a sexually-transmitted disease.                                                                  
He'd like to know the experiences in other school districts.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He asserted that the problem with the driver's record which led to                                                              
the  drafting of this bill could have been solved by the parent                                                                 
revoking permission to drive if DMV doesn't release that                                                                        
information and the child is under 18. Instead, SENATOR ELTON                                                                   
stated, we've fashioned a law that addresses one instance that                                                                  
happened in the past and expanded it to include school records                                                                  
without really understanding the net effect on the current                                                                      
practices of school districts.  He stated he is bothered by that.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KELLY said he didn't have strong feelings about this bill                                                               
until Senator Elton talked him into it.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 530                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN MILLER asked the wish of the committee.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. PAULEY addressed Senator Kelly's and Senator Elton's comments.                                                              
The Anchorage school district policy does include some health-                                                                  
related information in the records such as speech pathology reports                                                             
and a cumulative health card.  This is a standard part of an                                                                    
academic record disclosed to parents.  He cannot explain their                                                                  
policies regarding what is recorded on the health card.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 538                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON stated he's tempted to offer an amendment to remove                                                               
Section 1, but there is a compelling reason to work with parents                                                                
and release these records.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON offered an amendment as follows:                                                                                  
     on Page 1, Line 9:  add a new "(1) medical records; or"                                                                    
     and                                                                                                                        
     Renumber the existing (1) and (2).                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The intent is to add an exemption of medical records from release.                                                              
He stated he's not sure he wants to preclude medical records if a                                                               
school district wants to release them, but to keep it an option for                                                             
the school district instead of a state mandate.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. LAPE expressed concern over becoming an educational agency                                                                  
setting up policies in opposition to federal law.  Not giving                                                                   
certain records to parents would lead to ineligibility for federal                                                              
funds.  She said that this section is subject to the federal law                                                                
which has three exceptions to accessing records, in addition to                                                                 
those students over 18.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN MILLER stated the bill goes to Finance, and of course, to                                                              
the Senate Floor.  He recommended that Senator Elton work with the                                                              
department and the sponsor to come up with an amendment that would                                                              
do what he wants without making it mandatory for the school                                                                     
district.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON withdrew his Amendment #1.  He then offered a new                                                                 
amendment to strike Section 1.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN MILLER asked for objection.  There was objection to the                                                                
amendment.  Hearing no discussion, a roll call vote was taken with                                                              
Senator Elton voting "yea," and Senators Kelly, Wilken and Chairman                                                             
Miller voting "nay."  The amendment failed.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN moved CS SB 27(HES) out of committee with individual                                                             
recommendations and the zero fiscal note.  Hearing no objection, it                                                             
was so ordered.                                                                                                                 

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